WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:14 am

Alright, bits have started to roll in so its time to start the thread. Thanks to the Tax Man for financing the build.. Razz

Parts list
CC01 Chassis
GPM 4 link & Shock mounts
Alloy motor mount
Yeah Racing CVD's
Early BFG M/T Pattern tyres & 5 spoke touring car wheels
Kamtec Bowler Wildcat lexan shell

1250kv brushless outrunner with 35a EZrun ESC running 3s lipo
Hitec 645MG steering servo.
Spektrum radio gear.

Futures bits:
One way front diff
Alloy shocks
Steering kit
Full belly skid
Upgraded drive-shaft
Full interior with cage.

So when you add this:

Plus this:

Hopfully you get something like this:

Last pic for tonight, wheels and tyres:


More pics tomorrow...Hopefully of a rolling chassis... pirat
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  lunatick on Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:35 am

Mate get onto TZI and get yourself one of the Emax 3850 kv motors , There just $ 15
I,ve been thinking about making something similar ( Although with a Subaru Brumby body ) so i,ll be watching with great interest
avatar
lunatick

Posts : 193
Legend Status : 6
Join date : 2011-04-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  azwa on Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:11 pm

nice start troy & very nice body choice afro
avatar
azwa

Posts : 911
Legend Status : 16
Join date : 2010-11-01
Age : 43
Location : earth

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Big fella on Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:27 pm

finaly lol!

should be good when it all comes together mate.
avatar
Big fella

Posts : 188
Legend Status : 3
Join date : 2011-02-22
Age : 35
Location : Hervey bay QLD

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:26 pm

lunatick wrote:Mate get onto TZI and get yourself one of the Emax 3850 kv motors , There just $ 15
I,ve been thinking about making something similar ( Although with a Subaru Brumby body ) so i,ll be watching with great interest

Cheers for that Paul, but i've got a fair few outrunners here to play with...plus 3850kv would be too fast for the little beast. Its going to be running 3s dont forget... Twisted Evil
I've worked out with its current set up it should roughly do 15km/h or so...Thats pretty quick for something this size. If i want more stonk i'll get a 2000kv that will give me another 5km/h there abouts.

Didnt get the the chassis to roller stage tonight. But close.

Modded the front arms, Skid, and C-hubs to get some more travel and a fly sh1t more steering lock, and cut the brick off the front off the chassis.
Might have an issue with tyre height though...under full bump is looks like its going to stuff a tyre into the inner guards... Rolling Eyes
So now i've got to try and work around that issue...

More pics:

Gearbox and motor in:


under the front:


Front on:


The Brick cut:

GOOOONNNEEE!!!!!!:


Hopefully will get the rear end under it tomorrow and at least get it sitting on the rims. cheers
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  scottb on Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:15 pm

Very nice Troy.......so is this going to be A daka special then
avatar
scottb

Posts : 537
Legend Status : 18
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 53
Location : Waterford

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:34 am

scottb wrote:Very nice Troy.......so is this going to be A daka special then

Sort of but not really Scotty...It'll be built as a Rally raid car but no specifically Dakar style..

Should have some more pics up by dinner time tonight...
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Rustykaos on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:13 am

Coming along really nice. Also for more tyre clearance on the front put a 2-3mm spacer on the top shock mount so you get more ground clearance and won't rub as much.

Cheers Jarrod
avatar
Rustykaos

Posts : 383
Legend Status : 21
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 36
Location : Camp Hill, Brisbane

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:57 am

Rustykaos wrote:Coming along really nice. Also for more tyre clearance on the front put a 2-3mm spacer on the top shock mount so you get more ground clearance and won't rub as much.
Cheers Jarrod

Thanks for the Tip Jarrod, but it looks like i'm actually going to need shorter tyres.

Track width is perfect:


This is the orginal issue:


Uhhh...that aint going to work:


I'm not cutting into the body anymore and it will not clear under full lock & bump. So i'm on the hunt for some smaller tyres.
I'll be doing mock up with the stock CC01 bricks for the moment, the BFG's are up for sale in the classifieds.
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  micks troll on Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:13 am

Nice work mate I'm certain with your experience and skils you'll have it all up and running in no time Cool so hurry up Razz
avatar
micks troll

Posts : 188
Legend Status : 0
Join date : 2011-05-08
Age : 35
Location : South of the Ghetto

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:03 am

micks troll wrote:Nice work mate I'm certain with your experience and skils you'll have it all up and running in no time Cool so hurry up Razz
Thanks mick...the build will start to slow down now as i need to start final fitment etc.

Rear end is all done, shocks on and its offically a roller minus drive shafts.

Front 3/4 pic.This will be finished ride & body height or at least close to it.


it looks like i should have enough room in the guards after all for the bigger boots...Time will tell.
Can you spot the issue as well?


Wheel base too long. Easy fix though, i put the 4link together at max length. So need to shorten the lowers. pirat


All thats left is everything else... Rolling Eyes
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  kakarot on Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:42 am

Mad sh1t cuz!
avatar
kakarot

Posts : 109
Legend Status : 6
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 44
Location : Rochedale South

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Rustykaos on Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:05 pm

In the FJ40 kit (possibly others as well) there is this spacer (can't think of the right word for it) that gives you 4 option for mounting the rear four link. I will try and find out the part number as this would help a lot for setting your wheelbase.

Cheers Jarrod
avatar
Rustykaos

Posts : 383
Legend Status : 21
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 36
Location : Camp Hill, Brisbane

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:23 pm

kakarot wrote:Mad sh1t cuz!
Cheers Glenn...

Rustykaos wrote:In the FJ40 kit (possibly others as well) there is this spacer (can't think of the right word for it) that gives you 4 option for mounting the rear four link. I will try and find out the part number as this would help a lot for setting your wheelbase.
Cheers Jarrod

Yeah i spotted those bits Jarrod. Gives 3 different chassis mount options, but i got a few different lengths of rod ends in the GPM kit so i'll mix & match to get the wheel base right.


Still havent decided one a colour scheme yet...anybody got ideas?
I was thinking Metallic blue with silver or white bits on it...
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  lunatick on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:00 pm

WIDELOAD wrote:
Still havent decided one a colour scheme yet...anybody got ideas?
I was thinking Metallic blue with silver or white bits on it...

I reckon satin black or gun metal grey Like the photo of the 1:1 version in the pic
avatar
lunatick

Posts : 193
Legend Status : 6
Join date : 2011-04-06

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  azwa on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:24 pm

spray her with transluscent orange & then gunmetal grey ,
depending thickness will alter it from a gunmetal with orange pearl
to an almost harlequin style of colour where it alters colours 3 ,4 , 5 times depending on the angle your lookin at it

http://thecrawlpit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1633

pictures dont do it any justice it looked wicked ...



azwa .
avatar
azwa

Posts : 911
Legend Status : 16
Join date : 2010-11-01
Age : 43
Location : earth

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Jayboy74 on Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:32 pm

I reckon the black or gun meatl grey as stated or

a metallic orange with black trim, like the bike pictured i stopped one like this yesterday and it was mint in the sun, this paint however costs $1000 a litre so you might want to look for an alternative.

avatar
Jayboy74

Posts : 288
Legend Status : 0
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 43
Location : Toowoomba

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:12 pm

Thanks for the suggestions boys....I'll see what happens when it comes time for paint...

Ran into a issue tonight after screwing with the wheelbase...Got it dialed in nice.
But now the uppers keep binding up the rod ends...so i've got some more messing round to do to try to solve that issue... Mad
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  SkR8Pn on Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:17 am

Looks good Troy
avatar
SkR8Pn

Posts : 83
Legend Status : 3
Join date : 2010-10-26
Location : The Gap

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Aperture on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:17 pm

im likin what i see....

another new truck to get scratched
avatar
Aperture

Posts : 257
Legend Status : 7
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 46
Location : Coorparoo

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  scottb on Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:22 pm

Looking good Troy.......candy apple red (it's metallic) with gun metal bits
avatar
scottb

Posts : 537
Legend Status : 18
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 53
Location : Waterford

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:53 am

SkR8Pn wrote:Looks good Troy
Cheer Brother...Hopefully it ends up that way as well... scratch
Aperture wrote:im likin what i see....another new truck to get scratched
Yup...it's going to cop a flogging...
scottb wrote:Looking good Troy.......candy apple red (it's metallic) with gun metal bits
Thanks for the suggestion Scotty, I dont have a good track record with painting red though, so i'm a bit wary of it.

All right...not much progress. Building has slowed down while i wait for parts.

Got the wheel base sorted now & Front body mounts done. In the pics i had the body mounts one hole too far back, so its not lined up in the pics, but it does actually line up (get it?)
Also i think the body could be dropped a little more, but i've got to find my spare body posts. The stock CC01 ones dont have holes far enough down.


Trying to figure out a way to mount the battery 'cause im using smaller packs. Velcro straps fix everything.

They are just screwed into the top side of the 4link mounting screw holes. Works like a cham!
Now that was done i could fill the gaint stock battery hole in the side of the chassis.


Dropped the front cross member to take some of the angle out of the lower A-arms. Only down side to this is screws with the front roll center and now the camber changes through the front suspension cycle. Also can see bump steer being a bit of an issue, hence the servo saver in the above pic:


Last of the morning is my giant shaft... Took 5 stock axial shafts to get this thing made (5 your say...Yeah i made the first one too short & fawked it up Laughing) Added drive shaft rings to hopefully get it to hang together a bit longer.


So as of last night it was drivable in rwd only (front CVD haven't shown up)....Holy sh!t its fun. Stock tyres are they are so hard they spin on anything.
So i put on the BFG's/mud thraser knock offs...Pulls wheelies on the rug, concrete sounds like a 1:1 chuckin a skid (they howl like you wouldnt believe) and grass is close to pulling wheelies.
Minimum crawl speed it about a fast walk (crappy outrunner). Top end is hard to say, I never really opened the taps all the way. But its fast enough to be entertaining.

Still along way to go.... Suspect
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Rustykaos on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:52 pm

Looking good there troy. With the spacers on the front skid I took the front 2 out to give it a little ackermann angle. You will also have to shave a little off the inside of the C hubs as they will rub at full lock. Also with the front body mounts if you wanted it lower you could've mounted the body posts straight to the chassis rather than using that piece that goes across the front wheel arches.

Cheers Jarrod
avatar
Rustykaos

Posts : 383
Legend Status : 21
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 36
Location : Camp Hill, Brisbane

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:28 am

Answer's in Cyan mate. pirat

Rustykaos wrote:Looking good there troy. Cheers man... Very Happy
With the spacers on the front skid I took the front 2 out to give it a little ackermann angle.
The height and more specifically the angle of the of the cross member/A-arms doesn't have anything to do with Ackermann. What you adjusted is the anti-dive and/or Caster (not generally connected in the 1:1 world, but in RC they just about always are)
Ackermann is actually the geometric arrangement of you steering linkages steering geometery and is dertermined by the kingpins, steering knuckles etc not the lower cross member.


You will also have to shave a little off the inside of the C hubs as they will rub at full lock.
Beat ya to it...I made sure i did it before i built the rig. Wink

Also with the front body mounts if you wanted it lower you could've mounted the body posts straight to the chassis rather than using that piece that goes across the front wheel arches.
Thanks for that one, I didnt realise that....D'oh! too late now.
But I've been looking at the height and i'm actually happy with it. Everything clears under suspension cycle and lock to lock, so i'll leave it.

Cheers Jarrod


Last edited by WIDELOAD on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  WIDELOAD on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:13 pm

Got SFA done today...Body is mounted properly now, made a plate for the esc and took it for a bash around the front yard (minus body)

After digging round in the box i found another pair of body mounts that came with the kit, they were about 4mm shorter than the ones i was using so the body height is dialed in now.


Esc mount is just a piece of air craft ally (skin from a constellation passenger plane...lol!) cut, file, drill etc...and bingo, done. But i might have an issue if i put an interior in this thing as the esc sits pretty high in the body.




Top end speed is quick, but not quick enough for me so i'll be gearing it up to a 20t pinion (biggest you can fit in a cc01 without hacking sh!t up).
avatar
WIDELOAD

Posts : 655
Legend Status : 40
Join date : 2010-10-26
Age : 31
Location : Ipswich

View user profile

Back to top Go down

Re: WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it.

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum