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Post  Jayboy74 Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:32 pm

I reckon the black or gun meatl grey as stated or

a metallic orange with black trim, like the bike pictured i stopped one like this yesterday and it was mint in the sun, this paint however costs $1000 a litre so you might want to look for an alternative.

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Post  WIDELOAD Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:12 pm

Thanks for the suggestions boys....I'll see what happens when it comes time for paint...

Ran into a issue tonight after screwing with the wheelbase...Got it dialed in nice.
But now the uppers keep binding up the rod ends...so i've got some more messing round to do to try to solve that issue... Mad

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Post  SkR8Pn Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:17 am

Looks good Troy

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Post  Aperture Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:17 pm

im likin what i see....

another new truck to get scratched

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Post  scottb Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:22 pm

Looking good Troy.......candy apple red (it's metallic) with gun metal bits

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Post  WIDELOAD Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:53 am

SkR8Pn wrote:Looks good Troy
Cheer Brother...Hopefully it ends up that way as well... scratch
Aperture wrote:im likin what i see....another new truck to get scratched
Yup...it's going to cop a flogging...
scottb wrote:Looking good Troy.......candy apple red (it's metallic) with gun metal bits
Thanks for the suggestion Scotty, I dont have a good track record with painting red though, so i'm a bit wary of it.

All right...not much progress. Building has slowed down while i wait for parts.

Got the wheel base sorted now & Front body mounts done. In the pics i had the body mounts one hole too far back, so its not lined up in the pics, but it does actually line up (get it?)
Also i think the body could be dropped a little more, but i've got to find my spare body posts. The stock CC01 ones dont have holes far enough down.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Wheelpaseperfect

Trying to figure out a way to mount the battery 'cause im using smaller packs. Velcro straps fix everything.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Batterystrap
They are just screwed into the top side of the 4link mounting screw holes. Works like a cham!
Now that was done i could fill the gaint stock battery hole in the side of the chassis.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Holefilled

Dropped the front cross member to take some of the angle out of the lower A-arms. Only down side to this is screws with the front roll center and now the camber changes through the front suspension cycle. Also can see bump steer being a bit of an issue, hence the servo saver in the above pic:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Crossdrop

Last of the morning is my giant shaft... Took 5 stock axial shafts to get this thing made (5 your say...Yeah i made the first one too short & fawked it up Laughing) Added drive shaft rings to hopefully get it to hang together a bit longer.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Longshaft

So as of last night it was drivable in rwd only (front CVD haven't shown up)....Holy sh!t its fun. Stock tyres are they are so hard they spin on anything.
So i put on the BFG's/mud thraser knock offs...Pulls wheelies on the rug, concrete sounds like a 1:1 chuckin a skid (they howl like you wouldnt believe) and grass is close to pulling wheelies.
Minimum crawl speed it about a fast walk (crappy outrunner). Top end is hard to say, I never really opened the taps all the way. But its fast enough to be entertaining.

Still along way to go.... Suspect

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Post  Rustykaos Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:52 pm

Looking good there troy. With the spacers on the front skid I took the front 2 out to give it a little ackermann angle. You will also have to shave a little off the inside of the C hubs as they will rub at full lock. Also with the front body mounts if you wanted it lower you could've mounted the body posts straight to the chassis rather than using that piece that goes across the front wheel arches.

Cheers Jarrod

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Post  WIDELOAD Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:28 am

Answer's in Cyan mate. pirat

Rustykaos wrote:Looking good there troy. Cheers man... Very Happy
With the spacers on the front skid I took the front 2 out to give it a little ackermann angle.
The height and more specifically the angle of the of the cross member/A-arms doesn't have anything to do with Ackermann. What you adjusted is the anti-dive and/or Caster (not generally connected in the 1:1 world, but in RC they just about always are)
Ackermann is actually the geometric arrangement of you steering linkages steering geometery and is dertermined by the kingpins, steering knuckles etc not the lower cross member.


You will also have to shave a little off the inside of the C hubs as they will rub at full lock.
Beat ya to it...I made sure i did it before i built the rig. Wink

Also with the front body mounts if you wanted it lower you could've mounted the body posts straight to the chassis rather than using that piece that goes across the front wheel arches.
Thanks for that one, I didnt realise that....D'oh! too late now.
But I've been looking at the height and i'm actually happy with it. Everything clears under suspension cycle and lock to lock, so i'll leave it.

Cheers Jarrod


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Post  WIDELOAD Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:13 pm

Got SFA done today...Body is mounted properly now, made a plate for the esc and took it for a bash around the front yard (minus body)

After digging round in the box i found another pair of body mounts that came with the kit, they were about 4mm shorter than the ones i was using so the body height is dialed in now.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Bodymountedside

Esc mount is just a piece of air craft ally (skin from a constellation passenger plane...lol!) cut, file, drill etc...and bingo, done. But i might have an issue if i put an interior in this thing as the esc sits pretty high in the body.
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Escbracket

WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Escbracketinplace

Top end speed is quick, but not quick enough for me so i'll be gearing it up to a 20t pinion (biggest you can fit in a cc01 without hacking sh!t up).

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Post  lunatick Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:27 pm

WIDELOAD wrote:
Top end speed is quick, but not quick enough for me so i'll be gearing it up to a 20t pinion (biggest you can fit in a cc01 without hacking sh!t up).

I,ve got that Emax outrunner here Very Happy
Give us a yell if you wan,t to borrow it
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Post  WIDELOAD Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:46 pm

lunatick wrote:I,ve got that Emax outrunner here Very Happy
Give us a yell if you wan,t to borrow it

Cheers for the offer paul but that would make is faster than my slash... Shocked
Hmmm....tempting... Twisted Evil

But i'll give it a miss mate. With this thing not having a slipper clutch i'm worried about killing the drive train already never mind with that much leg up its skirt.
Top speed works out to about: 52-53 km/h... affraid affraid affraid thats scary fast with something this small!
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Post  Rustykaos Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:29 pm

At those speeds that bowler shell wont last very long. Very Happy
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Post  WIDELOAD Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:15 pm

Rustykaos wrote:At those speeds that bowler shell wont last very long. Very Happy

Yeah man i know! This body is the thinnest one i've had in a while.
I was thinking about getting some carbon rod and making up a 'cage for it, but for sure I'm going to shoe-goo the hell out of the inside of it to try hopefully hang it together for a bit longer than it normally would.

Bit of a pissant update...still waiting for bits so made up a spare tyre mount.
I was going to run dual spares vertically like a 1:1 Bowler does, but i cant do it without hacking the chassis to make room. So i went with a single spare. Still looks cool, but just not exact as the 1:1.

Here's the mount. Made from Styrene to hopefully keep the weight down a bit. Its pretty strong, did a couple of roll overs without the body on concrete and no breakage.. Smile
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Sparemount
Side on in the body
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Tyrein
Through the back window:
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Post  bazuky Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:56 pm

looks good
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Post  azwa Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:45 pm

hey troy chuck up a full side view
like the previous pic up above ,
showin the tyrein back .
mount came up sweet nice use of styrene bud
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Post  WIDELOAD Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:59 pm

It's in pieces at the moment. I'll put it back together in the morning and take a side-on for ya Az.
The styrene mount looks like a dog chewed on it, but its light, pretty strong and works like a cham...plus you cant actually see it once the tyres on... lol!


Got the ally angle cut for the bumpers tonight and the new harder foams for the tyres arrived. So tyres are all glued up to the rims as well.

Next up, fabbing bumper mounts and finish cutting the brick off the chassis....once that's done i can start to seriously think about pain.


EDIT: Oh yeah, and my 20t pinion arrived as well....so lost even more bottom end but she should scoot even quicker now.. Twisted Evil
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Post  WIDELOAD Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:52 am

Here ya go Azwa...Just for you mate:

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Post  azwa Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:09 pm

WIDELOAD wrote:Here ya go Azwa...Just for you mate:

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very nice mate shes coming along nicely
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Post  WIDELOAD Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:35 pm

Little bit of an update. Got the front bumper done and locked in today and the rear bumper is all cut out ready to make up mounts for.

Finished cutting off the brick and sealing it back off as well (no pic of that yet).
But ran into a bit of a issue, cut the head lights to put buckets in without double checking the size of the buckets again how big my reamer goes. Rolling Eyes
Big problem, reamer is 12mm max. Buckets are 19mm.... So now i've got to try and figure out how the fawk to fix it without screwing up the headlights... Evil or Very Mad

Mock up:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Frntbumpmock

Rear bumper:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Rearbump

Front all done and bolted up, i've changed the two button head bolts you can see on top over to counter-sunk ones now to clean it up more:
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Post  Big fella Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:47 pm

lookin good mate. shes getting there.

What about a dremel with a sanding wheel to finish off the light holes?
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Post  WIDELOAD Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:50 am

Big fella wrote:lookin good mate. shes getting there.
What about a dremel with a sanding wheel to finish off the light holes?

Cheers man...
I ended up hunting through the shed this morning i found a tapered reamer thats the perfect size... cheers
Just got to make sure i creep up on fit with it.
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Post  scottb Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:50 am

Looks good sofar Troy I do like the front bumper alot it's good that your enjoying your build mate alien cheers
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Post  WIDELOAD Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:21 am

Thanks scotty....I'm trying to keep is as close to the 1:1 bowler as possible, so I'm trying to figure out how to put a skid plate under the front like the 1:1 as well.

Rear bumper is all done, light buckets done and are clip fit (i'll still shoe goo them once the paint is done)

With the rear bumper on she's a wheelie machine now!
Wheelies so well it back flipped and snapped the styrene spare tyre mount... lol! Spare tyre mount will now be rebuilt and over-engineered out of ally now.. pirat

Might get some pics up later tonight, but most probably tomorrow...


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Post  WIDELOAD Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:01 am

Alright latest pics.

With the light buckets in it makes the front look way more complete:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Frntwbuckets

Rear bumper on. Easy as to mount up as well.
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New spare mount. Remade from 3mm ally and way stronger than styrene (no shite):
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Newsparemount


Colour has been decided. I'm sticking with my original thoughts of metallic blue, only for the reason i found pretty much a full can of it.
So paint should be on in the next few days (i hope).

The i just have to wait for the interior to show up...Story of this build - Waiting for parts. Evil or Very Mad
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Post  Rustykaos Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:14 am

This has just come out from GPM and will help you to stop stripping the spur gear. Very Happy

http://gpmracing.com.hk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=6130

Was also thinking these tyres would be good as the RC4WD knockoffs will wear out very quickly.

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/103765/
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Post  WIDELOAD Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:55 am

Cheers for that man....I've been trying to work out someway to jerry rig a slipper set up on it, but that's pretty sweet. I know there was a how-to on Scale 4x4 to put a 32p set up on it using modded stock bits.
The only downside i can see with doing either of them, is it would move breakage down the chain to the bevel gears and/or the transfer gears.

To tell you the truth, i'm really surprised with the knock-off tyres. With the firmer foams i'm running they show next to no wear after 5 pack of flogging on concrete, bitumen, grass and dirt. I've only just taken off the mold rib and the sidebiters are slightly rounded over. Suspect
Plus they are dirt cheap, so i'm not overly phased if their tread life is fairly short.
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Post  lunatick Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:09 am

Sorry to Hi jack your thread Rolling Eyes
But i was wondering if you no what the wheelbase and track width are of the cco1

PS I hate this build
coz its given me ideas and its gonna cost me money affraid

2nd PS Can,t wait to see it finished mate , coz it looks wicked cheers
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Post  WIDELOAD Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:01 pm

lunatick wrote:Sorry to Hi jack your thread Rolling Eyes
But i was wondering if you no what the wheelbase and track width are of the cco1

PS I hate this build
coz its given me ideas and its gonna cost me money affraid

2nd PS Can,t wait to see it finished mate , coz it looks wicked cheers

All good Paul. RustyKaos/Jarrod is the man to see about cc01's mate..he's the OG with these things.

On the tamiya site,tTrack width is width is listed as 195mm, but you can tweak that with different offset wheels and hexs and Wheelbase on the FJ40 one is listed as 252mm, but there are 4 different wheelbase options you can set up out the box.

Cost on these things isnt acutally that bad...You can pick up a kit for no more than AUS$200 if you hunt round. Even hop-ups aren't that bad. Pair of CVD's for under $20

I'm hanging to finish it as well mate. I've just scuffed up the body ready to start paint tomorrow.... cheers
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Post  lunatick Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:30 pm

WIDELOAD wrote:
All good Paul. RustyKaos/Jarrod is the man to see about cc01's mate..he's the OG with these things.

On the tamiya site,tTrack width is width is listed as 195mm, but you can tweak that with different offset wheels and hexs and Wheelbase on the FJ40 one is listed as 252mm, but there are 4 different wheelbase options you can set up out the box.

Cost on these things isnt acutally that bad...You can pick up a kit for no more than AUS$200 if you hunt round. Even hop-ups aren't that bad. Pair of CVD's for under $20

I'm hanging to finish it as well mate. I've just scuffed up the body ready to start paint tomorrow.... cheers

Thanks for the info mate cheers
Been toying with the idea of a Subaru brat ( brumby ) body on a Tamiya df03ra chassis
But now i,m thinking the cc01 might be a bit more fun
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Post  WIDELOAD Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:39 am

Alright everybody i know a few of you lot have been hanging so see the lid painted. Here it is...
Not super happy with out it came out, but it could always be worse..I had issues with the mask i used for the black stripe being old so it lifted in a few spots causing bleed through in a few spots, and the body didn't have over-spray film on the outside so there are a few little blue and silver dots on the outside that i can't get rid of.. Rolling Eyes
To top is off, went out and put the first coat of silver on the rear end...walked back inside, looked at the table and realised i forgot the F**KING REAR WINDOW MASK!!!!!!!!!!! Mad Mad Mad Mad

So now I've got to try and figure out what to do about the rear window, cut it out or just leave it as it and ditch the spare tyre totally.... scratch If you've got any ideas on how to fix it lemme know.

Onto the pics:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Rightsidebig

WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Leftside

WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Rear

Still need to put the wing on as well:
WIDELOAD's new project...Its a scaler, but not as you know it. - Page 2 Wingtop


Just need the interior to show up so i can lock this thing down as done...Still waiting for parts Suspect
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Post  azwa Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:47 am

she came up saweeeet troy , these things happen mate i wouldnt worry about the spare she looks just as good without it
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Post  gravedigger Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:01 am

That looks awesome makes me want another cc01 Razz
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Post  lunatick Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:20 pm

Could you cut the window out and put in some mesh
Although i reckon it looks sweet the way it is cheers
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Post  SkR8Pn Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:55 pm

The body came out sweet as. Cool
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